Hi, everyone, welcome to this week’s episode of hormonally speaking, we’re here today talking with a favorite of mine. I’m so excited to have her on the podcast. She really is a powerhouse and is doing such good work and bringing together these differing things that really are so important in regulating our nervous system. So we’ve talked a ton on the podcast about how important our adrenal health is, or cortisol managing our nervous system is when it comes to our hormones, right, we always want to jump to the estrogen and the progesterone. But we really have to take care of our nervous system first and foremost in order to help regulate our sex hormones. So I love talking about this topic, and I love the path that Lizzie takes with it. So my guest today is Lizzie Zima, who is a personal trainer, somatic practitioner and creator of Empower body mind soul, a self honoring movement and mindfulness modality that helps women release trauma connect to their inner guidance and embody their true strength and competence for music driven classes combined tools for nervous system regulation and emotional resilience, such as breathwork, and EFT with functional strength training and intuitive pleasure based movement and self love to promote physical, mental, emotional and spiritual well being. At the heart of her work is the prayer that we may metabolize our past traumas, release shame and unworthiness and rise up to embody our power and offer our greatest gifts and service to the rebalancing of our world. She offers classes, workshops, women’s circles, and private sessions, both online and in Asheville, North Carolina, you can find her at Empower body mind soul.com Welcome, Lizzy.
Thank you, Christine. I’m so grateful to be here.
Christine Garvin 1:48
Yeah. 100% I love you know, the work that you do, I’ve had a chance to do some of your online classes and in person classes too. And I really, you know, enjoy. I enjoy your approach and kind of the purpose of the work that you’re doing. Because, again, coming back to that nervous system regulation, which I definitely want to jump into more in depth here in a minute. But before we do that, tell us how you found yourself doing this kind of work?
Yeah, well, I grew up playing sports, I was on you know, all girls teams. And that was like my first my first experience of being like, in all women’s spaces where we were, you know, together and we had that camaraderie and we all lifted each other up. And it was it was so empowering for me. And it was really a pathway to leadership, I was captain of my teams. And I, you know, I led the stretching and I did the warm up mixes and everything. And then on the off seasons, I was training in the gym like with my dad. So from an early age, like I have been strength training and kind of had that wisdom of like this. This feels good. Like, I feel better when I do this. So I was kind of blessed to kind of have that early on. Yeah.
Christine Garvin 3:07
I mean, not many of us get that early.
I know I’m pretty, I’m pretty blessed. And then and then in my 20s You know, I went started my spiritual journey, and personal growth journey. And then I started doing a whole bunch of yoga and I sort of announced the gym, and yoga, you know, provided me a lot of things that sports and the gym didn’t you know, I really loved that mind body connection, and the soulfulness. But I didn’t actually realize how much I was missing the like the music and the pomp of the gym. And so it wasn’t until I had a young child and I wanted the childcare that I got myself back to the gym. And it was like Oh, like this part of me like that I had long lost forgotten about was like back and it felt so good because you know, it’s like, we think we got to do what spiritual and it that’s only one thing but I it was like this homecoming and a brace of my of my whole self again. And yeah, I just loves it. I love the music. I love the feeling of you know, the endorphin rush. I just loved it. But at the same time that I became a personal trainer and a group fitness instructor at that time, I was teaching much classes at the gym. But there was still like, I was missing the soulfulness. You know, so I’m like, well, it’s like you got to either choose this or that this side of the tracks and isn’t that our culture, you know, it’s like, left or right red or blue yoga or, or the gym, you know, and I’m like, I need to bring that these two worlds together. And so that’s how I started to create empower my my class. And because I wanted to bring these things together, I needed to bring these things together because I needed a space that no not only provided, like, an outlet for that, that pomp, you know, but to like dance wildly and like, express my, like, feminine wild nature, you know, and to connect in with my sensuality and my intuition, you know, as well as my spirituality, and as well as, like my strength. So I really felt like all of these things needed to come together. And, yeah, and so that’s kind of how it was born. And I was intuitively weaving in a lot of the somatic, you know, healing techniques that I didn’t really, I wouldn’t have really called them that at the time, I would really call them self presencing, you know, techniques. So I was including that for a long time. But it really wasn’t until the pandemic hit. And that I got to see my nervous system go totally out of whack, that I really then started to study the nervous system, gain certification and do my own somatic therapy, and then started to weave those pieces in at a much deeper, deeper level. So,
Christine Garvin 6:21
yeah, it’s it’s so interesting. I mean, like, you were saying, it had felt so long, like one path or another, you know, and it was so interesting, right? Because if you think like, the 80s, and even the 90s, maybe, you know, for women, it was like aerobics classes, like, you know, maybe you did a little strength training in that, but not that much. And then it kind of became the yoga thing that happened in the 2000s. And, you know, we get so entrenched in this kind of one thing and this particular path, right? And we now know, you know, I mean, some people that did yoga to this sort of extreme, it’s actually hurtful to the body over the long term, if you do it so much, so intensely, right, like, we have women in their 40s and 50s, getting hip replacements, because they like over yoga fine. And, you know, it’s like, all of these things are really important in a sense of balance of them. And so I love that, that’s what you’re doing is kind of bridging all of those, and really looking at the different positive aspects that those can bring in. But then you’re not overdoing sort of any one area at the same time, too. Yeah, over
identifying, you know, right, or a yogi or whatever. We’re all all of this.
Christine Garvin 7:47
Right. Exactly. And, and we, you know, we talked about a lot on the podcast, like how important, you know, strength training is for especially as we age as we get into perimenopause, and menopause, to really protect our bones over the long term, you know, and that’s, that’s really out there right now. But I also see a lot of women getting into overtraining, too, when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to go that hard that fast, right? And you are essentially dysregulated your nervous system saying if you’re doing like, intense hit all the time, right, right, right, it’s going into depleting your body rather than burning your body, and more cortisol instead of less. Right, exactly. And then we know that that’s not great for our sex hormones, you know. And so, I think that it’s so important, actually, for women to understand that, like, what you’re doing is sort of weaving these things together at the levels and the rates that they need to be at, to not over push, you know, and to and to really, like work together on that regulation. So let’s actually talk about maybe like, for people that don’t really understand what nervous system regulation means. They mean, write that down for them.
Yeah, well, we want to have an adaptive nervous system, we want to be able to express the full range of our nervous system, but then come back at any moment, you know, it’s like, it’s, it’s normal to activate get a cortisol rush, like when we wake up in the morning, we have that increase of sympathetic activation. And when we, when we work out, you know, same it’s activation, we want to make sure that we’re able to then down regulate, and, you know, get our parasympathetic on and down regulate when when we want to, and we want to make sure that we can kind of dance. It’s like it’s never static, you know, like our healthy zone of resilience is, it’s just like a healthy dance around the center, being able to get activated and then being able to relax. So it’s not just one Like, it’s not just being Zen and relaxed all the time, it’s just our capacity to dance with what’s arising and come back to our balance point at any moment, and we need, and we need tools for that, because stress is like, as we know, at an all time, high, you know, people are really experiencing a lot of anxiety, a lot of depression. So, we want to be able to just understand how our nervous system works to be able to identify, like, what’s what’s happening, where are we, where we’re at, and then what we can do to bring ourselves back into just like a healthy zone of being resilient and having access to all of our higher functions and all of our capacity, because as we know, like, when, when we’re dysregulated, we’re not our highest self, we don’t have access to our, you know, deeper into his intuition or higher wisdom, you know, it’s like, that’s all offline. And all it is, is like fear and the threat and the tiger chasing, it’s like, that’s all we can see. So we wanted to be able to identify if we are in sympathetic dysregulation, or if, you know, so that’s like anxiety, or we want to be able to identify if we’re in a in a freeze mode, if we’re shut down and we’re frozen, we want to be able to identify, if we’re in a fawning response if our social nervous system is activated, and we’re super concerned with what everybody else is doing. And we made a comeback to ourselves. For me, that was huge, I didn’t really understand what was happening, especially during the pandemic, with my nervous system. And then when I had like, a vocabulary and understanding for what was going on, I could then oh, I’m doing fawning, like, I’m scared, like, so let me bring my energy back to myself, maybe I maybe I’m going to do like a child’s pose, you know, and, or curl up in a little ball and just bring my energy or cover my eyes, you know, bring my energy back to myself. So it’s really about like understanding our nervous systems, we can identify where we’re at. And we can, you know, there’s a lot of simple tools just to help us come back into that healthy dance around the center.
Christine Garvin 12:26
Yeah, and I’m glad that you brought up, you know, these other responses that are, were technically kind of part of our sympathetic nervous system, but we don’t think about a lot, right, we just think of that anxiety, but we don’t think about the fawn response, you know, and that, that is all within that same around of, you know, sort of, I think of it as like output in a way, right, or energy kind of leaving ourselves versus that parasympathetic is like bringing that energy back into ourselves. And I’ve been thinking about this a lot with some of my clients, you know, I mean, I can, I just had a did a case study of one of my clients with the women that work with me, the other practitioners, and you know, just going over everything about her, it’s so much of it comes back to this nervous system dysregulation again, and again, right, and you can’t supplement your way out of it, you know, you can’t eat your way out of it, you can’t even just, you know, basic movement, you can’t move your way out of it, it’s like you have to have this almost, you know, multiple times throughout the day, really being aware of what system you’re in, and bringing yourself back in, right. And that’s building that muscle, right? To get into the part of your body that we know is our, you know, our rest and repair mode. But it’s so much more than that. It really is, like you said, like our connection to our intuition. You know, it is our like when we want to find a deeper well, and stability, and a world that’s really friggin unstable, right? It’s like, we have to keep building that muscle, consistently throughout our day. And I’ve been thinking about that with myself too. You know, it’s like, sometimes I get caught in that, like, oh, I want to take I want to drink caffeine, or I want to take some supplement that’s gonna pop me up because I got to do this thing, right? And just this morning, I had that moment where my body was like, No, you need to go the other way. You need to literally take 10 minutes to do a meditation you need you know, that is that’s going to ultimately give you more energy. Yes, right. Instead of this kind of I don’t want to call it fake energy, but this like, pushing. Yeah, you know, and it’s like, I had to catch myself because it’s like I tell people all the time not to do this. This is me doing this. Look around what supplement can I take right now?
It’s really about self honoring, you know, because we live in a world that just tells to us like, it’s we’re never enough, like what we do is never enough like, bigger, better, faster, harder, like, push through. And it’s like you said, like adrenal fatigue and all manner of autoimmune disorders unfolding because of it. So I think that’s, I think it’s our biggest work at this time. And reclaiming our enoughness, you know, is to just like, be tuning in with how we feel which A is just like a big step, because we were so disassociated from how we’re feeling, and so far and everyone else’s experience, especially as women taking care of others, to identify how we’re feeling, and then what we’re actually needing. And then to give us that, I mean, that’s like our biggest flex, it sounds like so simple, like, how am I feeling? What am I needing, and then actually giving that to ourselves? Yeah, but it’s like this, this is how we take our power back, you know, we live in a masculine society, that’s just, you know, push push forward, this is how we reclaim our feminine power by actually honoring the wisdom of our body, which is like an extension of the earth, you know, it’s a way to reclaim on all levels as feminine power as feminine wisdom, and it’s like, it’s got to start somewhere. It’s like, it’s gotta start with us, and we gotta then teach other people Yeah, we’re gonna take a break when we’re bleeding, you know, like working with breasts when we’re tired and like, show our kids and everyone else, our employees, and everyone, you know, like, this is, this is how we’re going to do it, we’re gonna pave a new way of, of self honoring, and I really do think that the wound of unworthiness, you know, not enough, I feel like that’s like the seed of all of our neuroses and dysfunction. And that, actually, when we can focus there and nourish that seed, which is ourselves, you know, we heal, like it ripples out to heal, like all of these other dysfunctions. You know, it’s like, I feel like instead of validating, you know, all the things, it’s like, we can really go into heal that wound of unworthiness, and really start to honor ourselves. And then we see all these things start to heal from the inside out.
Christine Garvin 17:21
Mm hmm. And I was thinking, as you were talking about that, you know, I mean, a, this is when people want to know how to, you know, regulate their hormones like that. That’s it, right? I mean, yes, there’s lots of other supports that we can do, but what you’re talking about is what’s going to heal your hormones, right? It really is, it’s like syncing up with your body is, you know, giving it rest all of those things, that’s, that’s going to do much more than anything else that you’re gonna attempt to do, you know, but also, I was thinking, you know, again, you’re an entrepreneur too. And, you know, it’s so easy for us to get caught up in that like, Okay, we have to, like keep doing, doing doing and going hard and like making all the things happen all the time, even if even if we know not to get into that it’s still hard not to fall into it because of, well, everything that just goes with being an entrepreneur, right, like expectations, you know, the like the ebbs and flows of it, that can be hard. And yet, I think what you’re talking about is so important as women entrepreneurs, creating this new pathway, and living and living what we are speaking to our clients and the people that we help, you know, it’s like, we got to do that issue. Yeah. It’s, it’s a huge practice and, and ultimately, it is what serves you the best. It’s what makes us sustainable, because it hasn’t been sustainable, right? And so many women’s bodies show that it’s not sustainable, and we keep just trying to push past it. And yes, this is the work like you said, it
sounds so like unsexy, but like, saying like, enoughness, you know, like, like completing one, you know, portion of our day, or one client or this podcast, you know, I’m just like, us good enough. Yeah.
Christine Garvin 19:15
Like, it was fabulous. You know, I mean, so hard because we, I get to the end of my day, all the time. And I’m like, Oh, I didn’t get this done. I didn’t get this done. I didn’t get this done. Instead of like, look at all the things the amazing things that I did and the way the brain
is designed, you know, it’s it’s attempting to help us keep us safe, but it’s going to always zero in on what’s not enough. And we have to get like five compliments, you know, to every one criticism to balance that out, you know, so it’s really is a practice and a retraining of our brain to celebrate our success and to honor ourselves
Christine Garvin 19:58
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that’s why my biggest thing is like daily practice, because like some of these, like, you know, we can have these big monumental moments of like breakthrough and deep somatic healing, for sure, and I recommend it. But we need a daily practice, we’re rewiring like eons of, you know, dishonouring of the feminine and our bodies, and our, our moms and necessarily have this wisdom, you know, to download to us. So it’s like, we are really rewiring our entire being, and it takes a consistent practice. So I’m really huge about like, showing up every day, for our practices and for our renewed commitment to honor ourselves into Yeah, love ourselves through this, these wild initiations of being a human being on this planet at this time.
Christine Garvin 20:56
Absolutely. So share with us some of your favorite practices.
Yeah, so I’m a huge fan of meditation, I know, that’s an advanced practice, but I love having a place that I make a beautiful, like an altar, or just a beautiful place doesn’t have to be called that. But a place where I, you know, put flowers and some of my favorite images of myself and some of the affirmations that I’m working on. And I really love creating a ritual where I go to this place, I get my coffee, actually, and I go to my place, and I, and I sit with myself, I, I meditate. And in some days, you know, meditation doesn’t just happen like that, I’ve got anxiety, you know. And so in those cases, I might go to tapping, emotional freedom, technique, tapping, or shaking, and dancing, meeting myself and in the energy that’s showing up before then trying to actually get still. So so that’s sort of like how I usually start the day and I really, really recommend a morning practice, because how we start at the tone for the day, in my experience makes a huge difference for the amount of spaciousness that I that I feel, you know, my capacity to manage things not going my way.
Christine Garvin 22:32
Which happens those days for most of us.
Yeah, so, so I really liked that. And breathwork is another tool that I’ll bring in, especially if if I’m feeling anxious, which some days you know, waking up anxious happens.
Christine Garvin 22:50
Yeah, like Nate named that and that’s okay. You know, yeah. So many people during run away from it, you know, wow, I get it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that’s, that’s kind of like one of the cornerstones of my entire work is like, meeting ourselves where we’re at. And that’s always where we start, you know, and I love EFT because that’s the whole thing with EFT, it’s like, even though I’m feeling this way, I deeply and completely love and accept myself. It’s like, acceptance and love is the secret sauce, we think it’s going to inhibit us from getting to where we want to go, you know, keeping us stagnant. But no, it’s like that, that shame is the thing that paralyzes us that acceptance is what moves us forward, you know, we can’t heal without it. So, so yeah, that’s that piece is, is huge. And I’m a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge fan of daily grounding, like getting my bare feet out on the earth, sunlight in my eyes. I, you know, it’s good to go first thing in the morning, but really, I like to go in the warmest part of the day. And just like, if to myself, it’s like, like, a break. And I find that supporting with energy levels and releasing anxiety. That grounding maybe is one of my most favorite tools.
Christine Garvin 24:16
Yeah. And it’s, it’s cool, because there’s actual research that shows that it literally works, you know, it’s not just this like woowoo thing, right? Like, you know, and it makes sense because, you know, I talked about this all the time, like, our in freyal rhythm, which is, you know, our cycle is our circadian rhythm. Really, like circadian rhythm is the daily thing that makes up our whole cycle, you know, so that’s where you want to begin. And absolutely, we’re not getting enough sun in general. So whenever you can get out and get in the sun is so wonderful, you know, but certainly connecting with the Earth is a huge part of that. It’s huge. Part of like, the microbes that are in our guts, you know, I mean, all of these ways that, of course, we are born of the earth were born of nature. So of course, our health is going to be dependent on our ability to be out there connecting with it, you know? Yeah. And I
think, you know, like, obviously, we’ve been disconnected people drive into their, you know, garages and wear the shoes. And they, I mean, some people don’t ever touch touch the earth, you know. But this is, I think, one of our biggest like, opportunities, actually, right now. And I think we’ll, we’ll see, like, as we get more disconnected and more technological. And people get sicker. You know, I think that like, this wisdom is going to be coming more and more into the forefront of like, the public, you know, because we are cyclical, you know, beings of the earth and our capacity to sync with the cycles of life determines our well being, you know, so like, sleeping when it’s dark, rather than having that blue light technology, like in our eyes up all night, and then sleeping all day or whatever. Yeah, and honoring our there’s our, you know, feminine cycles, or menstruation cycles to like, our capacity to rudely sync up with the natural cycles of nature, you know, of life is going to be I think, one of the things that saves us, actually, you know,
Christine Garvin 26:41
so I know a lot of people struggled with, you know, during COVID times. And I understand that. And there was that first couple of weeks, right? When I think we were all on board with this break. You know, and a lot of people, not everyone, but a lot of people did get outside, it was great. Gardens, right. So, you know, yes, I get if you’re in New York City, you may not have been able to spend a lot of time outside, but in general, it’s like, the work went down, us getting outside, went up, the animals started coming out, right, because we weren’t driving around and just bustling around. And so like nature was like really waking up in this, you know, different way. And it was, if we could just look at those two weeks, we could see how beautiful actually that that time was for all of us. You know, minus, obviously, if you had to be an essential worker, and things like that, and I totally respect and understand that it was not good for everyone. But for you know, those of us that were lucky enough, you know, it’s like, ah, if we could do that, like, on a consistent basis, you know, I mean, I think that really showed those of us that were paying attention. Oh, yeah. Like, this is more of how we’re supposed to live. Right? We’re supposed to have breaks. Yeah. You know, I mean, in Europe, there’s still so many places, they get seven weeks off vacation a year, you know, I mean, it’s in they have to take it, like the office shuts down, like these kinds of things, you know, and unfortunately, in America, there’s just, there’s no stopping.
You know, we can like even even 15 minutes, like, even with working what with what we have, like, even if we took our shoes off and had like, ate our lunch on our lunch breaks in the sun, you know, touching down barefoot, so the earth like at a park or even just a little small patch. It doesn’t have to be like, you know, epic middle part. Yeah. Yeah, even for 15 minutes if we just like quieted our mind, slow down to eat our food slowly listened to the sounds, you know, around us like it does. We don’t have to do it all day for our to have a huge benefit either. So working with what we have, you know, yep,
Christine Garvin 29:13
yep. 100% I think that’s such an important thing. Because I know, you know, I’ve seen this over the years with clients, they can really got get caught up in that I just don’t have time, you know, and this is where I think working with someone like you or me, or, you know, have you it’s like, let’s help you find some time, right. Like for one of my clients, it was she had a really stressful job. And she had to pick up her son, you know, at three o’clock from school, and I was like, Can you leave five minutes early, you know, and she said, yeah, and she said, she always you know, is in the car waiting for him for five to 10 minutes when she gets to school. So it was like if you leave five minutes early, and you have five or 10 minutes while you’re waiting for him sitting in your car, even when windows rolled down. with some meditation music on and just instead of scrolling. Right, right, you know, and it’s like it’s finding those moments because yeah, like you said, we have plenty of time to scroll usually. Yeah, we find that time. Yeah. So yeah,
it’s relaxing, you know?
Christine Garvin 30:17
Yeah, it’s not. Absolutely. So can you share with everyone what your classes are like?
Yeah. So when you get to my class, there’s a real sisterly warmth. You know, I always hug everybody. If it’s in person, you know, if people want a hug but you always feel a warmth, a warm welcome. And just being received as you are, you know, there’s a real come as you are, energy to it. And we always start with tuning in. So it’s like, how am I feeling, which, like I said, is because of the disassociation from past traumas, is a skill that we are really like learning, you know, remembering. So we always tune in with how we’re feeling, body scan, meeting ourselves with compassion. Knowing that however I’m showing up today, I’m worthy of love. And then we, we start to move really slow. So we start with intuitive pleasure based movement, so that we can really kind of sink our, our mind with our body and start to kind of start to kind of like code ourselves that like, moving should feel good like this, it feels good to be here. Like, it feels good to honor my body. And we may not always feel good in our body, but we’re, we’re meeting ourselves with compassion. And we’re inviting in as much tenderness and pleasure as we can. So we always start to move really slow, really like sinking ourselves back up, so that when we start moving faster, we’re not like disassociated, and like just moving so fast that we get hurt, right. So there’s always like a slow moving to, to really sink mind with body. And then we move into some like, usually compound functional strength training movements. So usually, like full body strength training moves, and then we dance freely, I really sometimes, you know, give it a little smidge of a choreography, low pressure choreography, that everyone can kind of get behind. And for like, one minute, we can all feel like Beyonce. But nothing too high pressure, most of the time, it’s a free dance, because our strength training is very linear. And so I like to balance that out with something that’s totally like freeform. And we get to like shake and just growl, sometimes making noises sometimes and just kind of like let ourselves freely express and again, feel good and our body, you know, and maybe get a little torque in there. You know, it’s like, you never really know it’s no good. You don’t really know what’s gonna happen. And then we come down to the mat. It’s a more like a Pilates style, core work. And then we end with stretching, yoga, meditation, EFT, tapping breathwork sometimes at the beginning. So yeah, I’ll really weave all of those into one class. And some people are like, wow, like, what just happened? Like, how did we do all those things? Like all I like 75 minutes. That was crazy, but totally happened. Yeah, it really like, my goal is like, nothing short of like a total rebirth. You know, like, I remember going to like my first yoga class, like, after I was like a new mom. And I was just like, I need this so bad like, that. I went to the class and it was like, it took everything to get there. I left just being so like, you know, like, unin booze or whatever, like unshifted or whatever. And I was like, man, like, if people were gonna make their way to class, like, I want to make it like worthwhile, like loose meeting ourselves, like in whatever, like pain, fear is showing up. And then like birthing ourselves like into like, radical self trust, you know, by the end of class. And so it’s really cool because I get to see you know, a lot of times we cry, you know, have like, a little release. And I see, you know, all of our faces just like the light shining through at the end of class. So yeah, that’s that that is really, really my goal.
Christine Garvin 35:04
Yeah, I mean, in the transformative nature of it, right? I think it’s a beautiful thing to be able to access, I believe everyone should be able to do therapy, I hope that, you know, most of us are able to do it. But there is something about classes sometimes, right? Where you can just call up your therapist, necessarily, when you’re in like, the middle of something, or you just had a hard day or what have you, right? It’s like, if you have that time on Wednesday, that you’re going to talk to them. But like when you have this class that you get to go to maybe at the end of your day, or the beginning of your day, or what have you. And you really, you know, it is somatic in nature, because you’re moving stuff through you in the process, you know, and that’s why that’s why I think a lot of times people don’t realize why they feel good when they leave a class like that. Right. And it’s like, you moved the energy, like, that is what it is, you know, and, and I love that you have the option to do this online classes.
Yeah. On Demand, like anytime you need it.
Christine Garvin 36:10
Right. Right, exactly. Because it’s like, a if they don’t live here, and they can’t attend your live, or, you know, whatever’s going on in somebody’s week, and they can’t come to a live class, like having that access to be able to do that at home, you know,
yeah. And I think like you said, like, our therapy is once a week, you know, and like, we have to be able to, like, hold this kind of space for ourselves. Like, in the moment when like, our fear our shame bubbles up to the surface, it’s like, that’s when we need it. And then I have, I created these on demand practices, and some of them are just like, you know, tending to the trigger, like breathwork, EFT movement, shaking, not as much working out, but just like, tending to the emotional. And so I wanted that for the people, because that’s how, like, that’s what I needed, you know, and my nervous system was totally out of whack. And I still, like when I’m struggling, I need to have help have help holding space for myself sometimes, you know, hit the button,
Christine Garvin 37:11
you’re like, Thank God I created. So
yeah, exactly, yeah. And when I, when I really need it, that’s, that’s what I do. And it’s, it’s so, so helpful. Ultimately, like, everything that I that I offer, is helping, you know, learn these skills, these tools of showing up for an honoring what we’re feeling, and moving the stuff through our body. So that we can really show up for ourselves, like, in the moment when we need to, and I have to say like, the most powerful releases that I’ve ever had didn’t happen in a therapy session. Like, no, they happened, like, when in the moment where the stuff was bubbling up for me and I, because I had tools because I cuz because because I kind of trusted myself, you know, that I could go in and just really feel what was showing up and like, release it.
Christine Garvin 38:11
Yeah. And that’s opportunity right there. Right. It feels like the antithesis of opportunity. He’s sometimes when you’re in it, right. But that stuff bubbling up. Like you said, being able to meet that is the ability to transform it and you know, to Yeah, be in full acceptance of all the parts of yourself versus I mean, it’s natural, most of us want to run away when that stuff comes up, right?
Yeah, we want to be past it. Something has bubbled up for me the other day, and it was like, oh, not
Christine Garvin 38:46
like, aren’t I done?
Like, this was last year. And, you know, it was I mean, I preached this stuff, and like a whole week went by of just like, you know, trying to avoid it. And I had so much anxiety, I had saw all of my squirrely addictive, you know, coping mechanism coming to rise to the surface. And finally, I’m just like, home man, like, I can’t like there was a pain in my solar plexus that just like, was not quitting, you know, and so I took myself out onto the earth and just let myself cry and feel and tap and shake, and be supported by the elements. And I felt so much better afterwards, you know? And, you know, I could have like, save that for therapy or whatever. But it’s like, no, like, we need to be able to hold the space. Ultimately, also for ourselves, you know, in our daily lives, like sets us up to do that.
Christine Garvin 39:52
Yeah. And what a beautiful thing for your daughter. Right and for anyone listening for daughters sons You know, trans, what have you, any of your kids to be able to show them how to process their emotions at a young age? Rather than how we’ve been taught, which was all the push it down? Generally, you know, and then suddenly, we’re adults with walking around with all this trauma.
Yeah. And it’s a spiraling, you know, journey. You know, it’s like, we kind of think, Oh, well, we addressed that one thing. And now, you know, it’s done. But you know, you just never know, and another layer is going to bubble up. So that continued willingness to meet ourselves in what shows up as is so important. It’s the lifestyle. Really,
Christine Garvin 40:44
yeah. This is the brand new lifestyle thing. We’re doing people all right. Well, so let people know how they can, you know, get access to this on?
Yes. Yes. So I have a bunch of on demand meditations and workouts that you can access totally free for 30 days. And then it’s sliding scale after that as part of my commitment to uplift the feminine. So you can access that as at Empower body mind soul.com. You can also find me on Instagram. Same thing and power body mind soul, I would love to connect with you DM me, let’s hang out.
Christine Garvin 41:28
Perfect. Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing all your wisdom today. I think there were so many good nuggets. In today’s talk of, you know, again, it’s like it’s not that complicated, right? I think we try and make the stuff so complicated. And we feel like there’s this answer that we can’t get to, when really, it’s just coming back to being with ourselves and allowance and using our tools. You know, I mean, again and again and again, you know, and so, but I think a lot of what you said today will really resonate and click in people’s mind. So thank you for sharing,
of course. Thank you. Absolutely. So fun to connect.
Christine Garvin 42:11
Yes. All right, you guys. I will see you next week. Okay,
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